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		<title>Comment on A Return and A New Theme by Jack Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Plot Study: Introduction by Matt Hayward</title>
		<link>http://blog.kelante.co.uk/2009/06/19/plot-study-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the comment, Cassandra! You're becoming quite the regular here... It's good to have you around. :)

I do agree that you need to be careful about just how much information you dump on your reader: Too much and they will lose focus, too little and none of it will make sense. Of course, however, the introduction act isn't limited to only the first chapter, it is as long as necessary and depends on how much of a 'setting' you want the reader to have and how long the story itself is.

As for what I do in the initial introduction, or opening scene, when roleplaying I like to give a minimal 'sneak-preview' of my character, but give a reasonable amount of description about the setting: The environment, the political/otherwise situation of the 'world.' It gives other players the chance to see what they are to expect, as well as to give a feel to the way I'm going to be telling the story.

Often, I will apply this to my 'standard' writing as well. It's a personal choice of style, and I think you are right in trying out a few different ways. Let me know how you get on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comment, Cassandra! You&#8217;re becoming quite the regular here&#8230; It&#8217;s good to have you around. <img src='http://blog.kelante.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do agree that you need to be careful about just how much information you dump on your reader: Too much and they will lose focus, too little and none of it will make sense. Of course, however, the introduction act isn&#8217;t limited to only the first chapter, it is as long as necessary and depends on how much of a &#8217;setting&#8217; you want the reader to have and how long the story itself is.</p>
<p>As for what I do in the initial introduction, or opening scene, when roleplaying I like to give a minimal &#8217;sneak-preview&#8217; of my character, but give a reasonable amount of description about the setting: The environment, the political/otherwise situation of the &#8216;world.&#8217; It gives other players the chance to see what they are to expect, as well as to give a feel to the way I&#8217;m going to be telling the story.</p>
<p>Often, I will apply this to my &#8217;standard&#8217; writing as well. It&#8217;s a personal choice of style, and I think you are right in trying out a few different ways. Let me know how you get on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot Study: Introduction by Cassandra Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts for the introduction.  The one thing I would comment on, in regard ot history, is to be wary of the info dump.  Elizabeth Spann Craig has a great post on this http://midnightwriters.blogspot.com/2009/06/information-dumps-and-how-to-avoid-them.html and is well worth reading.  Personally, I like the history of characters and worlds to be slowly revealed, rather than dropped on us straight away in the intro, but everyone likes things differently.

Recently I've been playing with introductions, trying to do slow lead ins, dropping people into action, starting descriptive, starting with dialogue, just to see what works for me.  I'm still kind of playing and I'm torn between wanting people to know a bit about the characters and wanting to jump straight into the action.  At the moment I'm erring on the side of caution and tend to start with the main character musing on something before they are swept off into action.  Maybe I'll work on it some more.

Thanks for the great post, looking forward to the next in the series.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/fiction-vs-reality.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fiction Vs Reality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts for the introduction.  The one thing I would comment on, in regard ot history, is to be wary of the info dump.  Elizabeth Spann Craig has a great post on this <a href="http://midnightwriters.blogspot.com/2009/06/information-dumps-and-how-to-avoid-them.html" rel="nofollow">http://midnightwriters.blogspot.com/2009/06/information-dumps-and-how-to-avoid-them.html</a> and is well worth reading.  Personally, I like the history of characters and worlds to be slowly revealed, rather than dropped on us straight away in the intro, but everyone likes things differently.</p>
<p>Recently I&#8217;ve been playing with introductions, trying to do slow lead ins, dropping people into action, starting descriptive, starting with dialogue, just to see what works for me.  I&#8217;m still kind of playing and I&#8217;m torn between wanting people to know a bit about the characters and wanting to jump straight into the action.  At the moment I&#8217;m erring on the side of caution and tend to start with the main character musing on something before they are swept off into action.  Maybe I&#8217;ll work on it some more.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great post, looking forward to the next in the series.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..<a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/fiction-vs-reality.html" rel="nofollow">Fiction Vs Reality</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>Comment on Elements of Plot by Writer Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dave, I like it best when there isn't a tidy ending. As far as laying it all out, what you have seems spot on. However, I've never outlined a thing in my life. It totally doesn't work for me. I much prefer to just start writing, lay out the bones, and then go back to the beginning and add the skin. For me, intuition takes the story in the right direction.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Writer Dad’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://writerdad.com/poetry/my-dad-a-fathers-day-poem/" rel="nofollow"&gt;My Dad - A Father’s Day Poem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dave, I like it best when there isn&#8217;t a tidy ending. As far as laying it all out, what you have seems spot on. However, I&#8217;ve never outlined a thing in my life. It totally doesn&#8217;t work for me. I much prefer to just start writing, lay out the bones, and then go back to the beginning and add the skin. For me, intuition takes the story in the right direction.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Writer Dad’s last blog post..<a href="http://writerdad.com/poetry/my-dad-a-fathers-day-poem/" rel="nofollow">My Dad - A Father’s Day Poem</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>Comment on Elements of Plot by David Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you got the parts correct. I've never given much thought to picking stories apart to see what makes them tick (though I have done so for TV and movies). Stories have always been kind of intuitive for me, and I've not given them as much thought (from this type of analysis, anyway).

I'd say the longer the rising action continues, the more interesting the book. I like to keep the rising action throughout an entire story if I can, spending very little time on the climax, falling action or the conclusion. Personally, I enjoy when the latter parts of the fiction are used to set up some future installment or to let the reader wonder what happens next.

As goes life, good fiction rarely has a final scene that tidily wraps everything up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you got the parts correct. I&#8217;ve never given much thought to picking stories apart to see what makes them tick (though I have done so for TV and movies). Stories have always been kind of intuitive for me, and I&#8217;ve not given them as much thought (from this type of analysis, anyway).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the longer the rising action continues, the more interesting the book. I like to keep the rising action throughout an entire story if I can, spending very little time on the climax, falling action or the conclusion. Personally, I enjoy when the latter parts of the fiction are used to set up some future installment or to let the reader wonder what happens next.</p>
<p>As goes life, good fiction rarely has a final scene that tidily wraps everything up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elements of Plot by Matt Hayward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Cassandra, thanks for the comment.

I definitely agree with you, and it's something that I will be discussing over the course of this theme. However, in summation, side-plots will often reach their pinnacle around the same point as the main plot, or if not, they will follow the same 'five act' structure, just wrapped inside the main plot.

So, within the rising action, you would have various five staged side-plots occurring.

But, like I said, I'll be discussing this in later posts. :)

Again, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Cassandra, thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>I definitely agree with you, and it&#8217;s something that I will be discussing over the course of this theme. However, in summation, side-plots will often reach their pinnacle around the same point as the main plot, or if not, they will follow the same &#8216;five act&#8217; structure, just wrapped inside the main plot.</p>
<p>So, within the rising action, you would have various five staged side-plots occurring.</p>
<p>But, like I said, I&#8217;ll be discussing this in later posts. <img src='http://blog.kelante.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Again, thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elements of Plot by Cassandra Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This basic strucutre works well when looking at short stories, but novels tend to get more complex (admittedly the complexities are built on top of this basic structure).  Even non-linear stories have these elements, though they are harder to identify.  

I think what is missing from this, is a closer look at side plots and interwoven stories.  They are an essential part of a good novel, and to lump them in as part of the rising action seems an injustice.  The rising action would seem to me, the parts that lead us along the main story line, but those other sidequests are an addition to that.  Just my view.

Looking forward to reading the next couple of posts.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/my-writers-tool-kit.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;My Writer's Tool Kit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This basic strucutre works well when looking at short stories, but novels tend to get more complex (admittedly the complexities are built on top of this basic structure).  Even non-linear stories have these elements, though they are harder to identify.  </p>
<p>I think what is missing from this, is a closer look at side plots and interwoven stories.  They are an essential part of a good novel, and to lump them in as part of the rising action seems an injustice.  The rising action would seem to me, the parts that lead us along the main story line, but those other sidequests are an addition to that.  Just my view.</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading the next couple of posts.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..<a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/my-writers-tool-kit.html" rel="nofollow">My Writer&#8217;s Tool Kit</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Return and A New Theme by Matt Hayward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, Cassandra!

Thank you for the comment, it's greatly appreciated. And welcome to A Writer's Journey.

I must agree with you that Sparhawk was indeed a brilliant character - one of my favourites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, Cassandra!</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment, it&#8217;s greatly appreciated. And welcome to A Writer&#8217;s Journey.</p>
<p>I must agree with you that Sparhawk was indeed a brilliant character - one of my favourites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Return and A New Theme by Cassandra Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with you on feeling the loss of David Eddings, as someone who was also inspired by him (parituclarly the Elenium - Sparhawk was one of the greatest characters I ever read in high school).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/moments.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Moments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on feeling the loss of David Eddings, as someone who was also inspired by him (parituclarly the Elenium - Sparhawk was one of the greatest characters I ever read in high school).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Cassandra Jade’s last blog post..<a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/06/moments.html" rel="nofollow">Moments</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>Comment on My Favourite Characters by darkened jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkened jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you on Althalus, he was always one of my favourite david eddings characters.  Though I think my favourite character of all time would have to be Daemon Sadi from Ann Bishops, dark jewels trilogy.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;darkened jade’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/05/best-and-worst-of-fantastical-creatures.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Best and The Worst of Fantastical Creatures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you on Althalus, he was always one of my favourite david eddings characters.  Though I think my favourite character of all time would have to be Daemon Sadi from Ann Bishops, dark jewels trilogy.</p>
<p><abbr><em>darkened jade’s last blog post..<a href="http://darkenedjade.blogspot.com/2009/05/best-and-worst-of-fantastical-creatures.html" rel="nofollow">The Best and The Worst of Fantastical Creatures</a></em></abbr></p>
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